Mind of State is a podcast where politics and psychology meet. Each episode features lively commentary on current events, policymakers, and the body politic and how we have arrived at this moment, as observed through both a political and psychological lens. We explore how "mind" impacts "state" and vice versa.

Tune in, as co-hosts Betty Teng and Jonathan Kopp engage in nuanced conversation with distinguished experts from the worlds of politics and psychology as well as others from related fields who have studied the complex dynamics between individual/group psychology and political processes.

Mind of State is produced and recorded in NYC by Betty Teng, Jonathan Kopp, Thomas Singer, Alletta Cooper and Jenny Woodward.

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